What Are We Doing in Afghanistan?

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In addition to being ubiquitous, Rumsfeld has always been candid, Martin said.
"Rumsfeld has always been quite open that the point here is to kill people," Martin said. "Somebody asked him, 'Why are we using cluster bombs?'. He said, 'We're using cluster bombs because we want to kill as many of the Taliban fighters as we possibly can.' Asked, 'Do you want Osama bin Laden dead or alive?' he said 'I prefer him dead.'"
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- Veteran CBS Pentagon Correspondent David Martin quoted in The Chicago Tribune, January 7, 2002.